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Windows Live Photo Gallery and Picasa

February 4, 2012
12:49 pm

Harald von Langsdorff

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I searched your forum and found a few instances where you mention you also use of Windows Live Photo Gallery.

I used it too. However, I recently updated to Picasa 3.9. and – for whatever reason – had to rescan all my faces. Now that this is done and I spend quite a few hours, I am worried to open Windows Live Photo Gallery as it also does face recognition. I do not want to mess up anything in Picasa again.

What do I need to pay attention to if I want to use Windows Live Photo Gallery along with Picasa?

Any does and don'ts?

Thanks

Harald

February 6, 2012
12:03 pm

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Photo Gallery and Picasa use different methods for face tags. They won't recognize each other's tags and they shouldn't affect each others tags.

Picasa 3.9 has a new option for face tags. It used to save faces in a separate database file, now you have the option of saving the tags with the picture. I think this only takes effect for the pictures you tag, after installing 3.9 and using the 'store with picture' option. Take a look at Tools Options, Name Tags and see if 'Store Name Tags in Photo' is checked.

This is the bleeding edge of photo technology – I don't expect standards to settle down for quite a while.

Here is a lengthy thread on the forum about Picasa's name tags

Bottom line – to answer your question – you can use both, they won't affect each other's tags (to my knowledge) but they won't share either.

They definitely won't affect each other's tags just by opening the program. The only danger is when you use one of the programs to add a name tag, it writes to metadata of the .jpg file. Any time that data is edited, there is potential for corruption.

February 6, 2012
12:43 pm

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I noticed that when I open Picasa 3.9 and go to "Tags" (not "People") it does actually display the "regular" tags I had entered with Photo Gallery.

So "people name/faces tags" and "regular tags" like keywords must be different animals?

I do like the Photo Galley "regular" tagging system as you can create "nestled" tags like "Events/Sports/Soccer". I can then search that way. I have not found if Picasa can do that too?

Yes, I set Picasa to store the people tags with the photo.

MrsGeek said:

Photo Gallery and Picasa use different methods for face tags. They won't recognize each other's tags and they shouldn't affect each others tags.

MrsGeek said:

They definitely won't affect each other's tags just by opening the program. The only danger is when you use one of the programs to add a name tag, it writes to metadata of the .jpg file. Any time that data is edited, there is potential for corruption.

The fear I have – especially now that 3.9 save faces in the photo - is that when I now open Photo Gallery, it start scanning faces right away and save what it finds in the picture and cause a corruption of the Picasa faces.

February 6, 2012
1:07 pm

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I'm confident you can open Photo Gallery without affecting Picasa's faces. Even if it is scanning for faces, it doesn't write any data to a file unless you identify the face. You can also turn off face detection in PHoto Gallery with File / Options / General and uncheck Find people in your photos.

p.s. I kinda like how Photo Gallery handles regular Tags too. Face tags are completely different since they need to specify the exact part of a picture that is the face being tagged.

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